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. >> dianne feinstein, chairman of the intelligence committee, says that we have a process for wiretaps. i don't think that you can calculate the hostility and the enmity that is generated by civilian deaths and drones. >> drones underscore the tragic nature of being a superpower. they are absolutely essential and they are sure to end badly. there is sure to be a bad ending to the store, but is still necessary to do these things because what else are we going to do? >> we have a sort of secret army, and the cia is going off on its own bid you wrote a book about this -- >> it makes me extremely anxious, because the history of covert action is that it often backfires. it is just an existential dilemma. i hate to be too fruity about this, but if you are a superpower and trying to keep peace and it will, you will do morally reprehensible things, and it is almost guaranteed to come and bite you, but you still have to do it. >> i remember you predicted after 9/11, get ready, we will do unpalatable things. >> of course, it it just goes with the territory. >> there was this moment in the hearin
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dianne feinstein is talking to brennan about actions that the u.s. may take and their legality on the grounds and if there is proper review for the use of these legal strikes. this is the exchange. [video clip] >> i would like to ask you about the status of the demonstration's efforts to institutionalize rules and procedures for the -- the toinistration's efforts institutionalize rules and procedures for drone strikes. how do you see your role in that approval process? >> as this committee nose and was to continue to protect certain covert certaininow -- committee knows and was to protect certain covert operations. we feel we are taking the appropriate action at the appropriate time. the president has insisted any actions we take will be legally grounded, will be thoroughly anchored in intelligence, will have the appropriate approval process before any action is contemplated, including those actions that might involve the use of lethal force. different parts of the government are involved in this process. my role as the president's counterterrorism a
dianne feinstein is talking to brennan about actions that the u.s. may take and their legality on the grounds and if there is proper review for the use of these legal strikes. this is the exchange. [video clip] >> i would like to ask you about the status of the demonstration's efforts to institutionalize rules and procedures for the -- the toinistration's efforts institutionalize rules and procedures for drone strikes. how do you see your role in that approval process? >> as this...
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really go out there and say here is why we have to do it he saw the chairman of the committee senator feinstein try to brag an argument out of him. he was hesitant to go there because he wanted to add leer to secrecy. but because of the memo we're having the discussion. and it's being lead on the other side by the opponents ron and j rockefeller, people like that and so you know when i look at the evidence, one of the things you see is that people like barack obama who were opposed more or less are skeptical of the policy, once they are actually in in power faced with the realities you see them swing over and so it's become a f you think about if we are going to take on al qaeda, and i think the evidence is that it allows you to kill the leaders of al qaeda with much fewer civilian casualties than a bombing campaign, than boots on the ground or anything else. so it is an effective program for that. the two things i would say is the buildback back from popular been is-- the secretary thing is who is reviewing. we've got really a group of people, all work together every day sort of doing this pro
really go out there and say here is why we have to do it he saw the chairman of the committee senator feinstein try to brag an argument out of him. he was hesitant to go there because he wanted to add leer to secrecy. but because of the memo we're having the discussion. and it's being lead on the other side by the opponents ron and j rockefeller, people like that and so you know when i look at the evidence, one of the things you see is that people like barack obama who were opposed more or less...
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dianne feinstein had a little different take in terms of the high-value targets. this is what she said. >> having the executive being the prosecutor, the judge, the jury, and executioner all in one is very contrary to traditions in the laws of this country. particularly in this ditch away to where there is time. if a soldier on the battlefield does not have time to go to court, if you're planning a strike over a matter of days, weeks, or months, there is an opportunity to least go to some outside of the executive branch body like the fisa court in a top-secret way, make the case that this american citizen is an enemy combatant. >> i think is worthy of discussion. our tradition, judicially, is a court of law is used to determine one's guilt or innocence for past actions for it which is very different from the decisions made on the battlefield as well as actions taken against terrorists. because none of those actions are to determine past built for those actions they took. the decisions made are to take action so we prevent a future action to protect american lives.
dianne feinstein had a little different take in terms of the high-value targets. this is what she said. >> having the executive being the prosecutor, the judge, the jury, and executioner all in one is very contrary to traditions in the laws of this country. particularly in this ditch away to where there is time. if a soldier on the battlefield does not have time to go to court, if you're planning a strike over a matter of days, weeks, or months, there is an opportunity to least go to some...
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i notice that chairman feinstein in the course of her rashgsz side-stepping classified information made that point that from what the committee sees, the targeting is very precise. >> do you think that the president should have the sole phenyl authority over this. we're told by public reports that there is actually a kill list and that the president goes through names and the intelligence himself. >> should there be some other check and ballot ability of a president, any president, to make life and death decisions over americans who are connected to terrorist groups or are suspected of being connected to terrorist groups. >> i think that's a tough question. i think it does bare examination. he clearly is responsible and accountab accountable. since lyndon johnson did get involved. since then presidents typically have not gotten into the targeting loop that is choosing specific targets. >> that is a departure from past practice, and i think the idea of looking at a court or some other thing inserted into the decision process has some merit. >> and what about john brennan's defense of enh
i notice that chairman feinstein in the course of her rashgsz side-stepping classified information made that point that from what the committee sees, the targeting is very precise. >> do you think that the president should have the sole phenyl authority over this. we're told by public reports that there is actually a kill list and that the president goes through names and the intelligence himself. >> should there be some other check and ballot ability of a president, any president,...
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. >> please -- >> senator feinstein. >> if you could please expedite the removal. >> more important than the children of pakistan and yemen? are they more important? do your job! >> the hearing serve as a public discussion of the most controversial counterterrorism policies that began under president george w. bush and, in part, have continued and expanded under president obama. brennan's defense of the secrecy surrounding the administration's most questionable program, targeted assassinations using drone aircraft, was as opaque as the program itself. >> what we need to do is optimize transparency on these issues, but at the same time optimize secrecy and the protection of our national security. i don't think that it's one or the other. it's trying to optimize both of them. >> some senators, including ron widen and angus king, pushed brennan to explain the legal at and justification for assassinating american citizens abroad. >> every american has the right to know when their government believes it's allowed to kill them. >> i understand you can't have co-commanders in chief, but having
. >> please -- >> senator feinstein. >> if you could please expedite the removal. >> more important than the children of pakistan and yemen? are they more important? do your job! >> the hearing serve as a public discussion of the most controversial counterterrorism policies that began under president george w. bush and, in part, have continued and expanded under president obama. brennan's defense of the secrecy surrounding the administration's most questionable...
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. >> please -- >> senator feinstein zsh if you could please expedite the removal. >>> we have michael isakoff, and the correspondent who obtained the white page memo, jim warren, chicago editor of the daily beast and newsweek and karen finney and john braybender. michael, i want to start with you because it was your reporting that started all of this for the american people to get to learn more about how the administration feels it is legal in the choices made for drone strikes. one thing politico is reporting in the article that they have on this and, of course, the two hearings we were watching yesterday, one being leon panetta on benghazi and the other one with john brennan in the afternoon, it says, senators were looking for a pinata, for hours, brennan was battered by senators even though many of the complaints had little or nothing to do with him. what did we learn? what did we walk away with? >> actually, very little. although i think there was a lot of expectations that we were going to get more transparency, particularly because president obama had just the night before said
. >> please -- >> senator feinstein zsh if you could please expedite the removal. >>> we have michael isakoff, and the correspondent who obtained the white page memo, jim warren, chicago editor of the daily beast and newsweek and karen finney and john braybender. michael, i want to start with you because it was your reporting that started all of this for the american people to get to learn more about how the administration feels it is legal in the choices made for drone...
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members of the senate intelligence committee led by diane feinstein wanted to know if he agreed the use of waterboarding. he previously said he believed those techniques led to getting information that saved lives. but now he said he opposes it. >> it never should have been employed. >> reporter: he defends the use of drones to attack terror suspects. he said they are uses against threats and not as pay back. democrats cost that he will be confirmed. from could be a vote after that. reporting live in washington. >> the president meanwhile is among those scheduled to speak at the farewell ceremony later today. the 74-year-old will be honored for his years of public service. he said he is looking forward to returning to private life on his family's wall nut ranch. the president nominated chuck hagle to replace him but that nomination hasn't been voted on by the senate. >> going back to the continuing coverage of the search for accused gunman christopher dorner. investigators are going over the manifesto he posted on his facebook page. he addressed to america and he called it last resort.
members of the senate intelligence committee led by diane feinstein wanted to know if he agreed the use of waterboarding. he previously said he believed those techniques led to getting information that saved lives. but now he said he opposes it. >> it never should have been employed. >> reporter: he defends the use of drones to attack terror suspects. he said they are uses against threats and not as pay back. democrats cost that he will be confirmed. from could be a vote after that....
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when you hear dianne feinstein say why can't staff be involved? they have experts who work on their staff and, you know, if you were handed or i was handed a memo that was complex and we got a chance to read it but then they took it away and no one else could see it, yes, you had some oversight but you really didn't get a chance to study it to make lots of informed questions about it, that sort of thing. so that's part of that appeal. barbara mikulski said she's been jerked around time and time again. that gives you a window into a frustration where highly trusted members of congress are not getting answers and they let it be known. >> now, kelly, the brennan hearings sort of took up all the oxygen in political washington yesterday, but there was a hearing earlier in the day, senate armed services committee, leon panetta, the outgoing defense secretary, talked about many things but i want to play something about the attack in benghazi and the exchange between he and lindsey graham. >> it lasted almost eight hours. and my question to you is during
when you hear dianne feinstein say why can't staff be involved? they have experts who work on their staff and, you know, if you were handed or i was handed a memo that was complex and we got a chance to read it but then they took it away and no one else could see it, yes, you had some oversight but you really didn't get a chance to study it to make lots of informed questions about it, that sort of thing. so that's part of that appeal. barbara mikulski said she's been jerked around time and time...
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brennan told senate intelligence committee led by dianne feinstein that drone strikes are never used as retro abuse for an earlier attack against americans. he says americans deserve to learn more about the procedures and practices for drones and targeted killings. republican senators want to know if brennan would rather kill terrorists with a drone or capture them. >> i never believe it's better to kill a terrorist than detain him. we want to detain as many terrorists as possible. >> reporter: another big topic of the day information sharing. senators complain they don't share enough classified information with them while sharing too much with the media. some republicans accused brennan and the cia of offering authorized leaks to help president obama in the when i see you next in a warning coming from out going defense secretary leon panetta about upcoming defense cuts. reporting live in washington jacqueline fell ktvu channel 2 news. >>> texas governor rick perry is coming to california to try to lure businesses away to texas. his visit kicks off on sunday and will include stops in
brennan told senate intelligence committee led by dianne feinstein that drone strikes are never used as retro abuse for an earlier attack against americans. he says americans deserve to learn more about the procedures and practices for drones and targeted killings. republican senators want to know if brennan would rather kill terrorists with a drone or capture them. >> i never believe it's better to kill a terrorist than detain him. we want to detain as many terrorists as possible....
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i pursue dianne feinstein's statement about staff. under the previous administration, when you have a briefing with the president or the vice president and the cia and others, you are not allowed to -- i can remember when pat roberts was the chairman and i was vice chairman, we were not allowed to talk to each other driving up and driving back. staff were allowed to do nothing. you are surrounded by people who work with you and fill you in. people who are experts. we are, too. they've got to be part of this. wende olc comes, it should come to them also. i strongly agree with the chairman's views on that. in the enhance interrogation techniques matter, a handful of former cia officials who were personally invested in defending the interrogation program, largely because their professional reputations depend on it, i think it does a great disservice to discuss this issue. you understand that this took six years to write, not just 6000 pages. perhaps longer. 30,000 footnotes. why did we do this? we did this because we have heard nothing f
i pursue dianne feinstein's statement about staff. under the previous administration, when you have a briefing with the president or the vice president and the cia and others, you are not allowed to -- i can remember when pat roberts was the chairman and i was vice chairman, we were not allowed to talk to each other driving up and driving back. staff were allowed to do nothing. you are surrounded by people who work with you and fill you in. people who are experts. we are, too. they've got to be...
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. >> stephanie: that was senator feinstein. >> yeah. >> stephanie: huh? >> hum. >> stephanie: okay. >> it's just interesting, you know. >> stephanie: i had this debate, i was on governor granholm's last show -- [ applause ] >> stephanie: i can't breathe without her. she might be up for a cabinet post, though. i'll just keep calling her over and oversee if she'll take my call. >> no, she won't. >> stephanie: no but we had a really interesting discussion this is just not a black or whitish you. but she believed that the president is fighting a smarter tougher war on terror and george bush with one bomb took out several blocks in iraq bought he thought saadam might be there or whatever. and talk about a dumb war. mickey in south dakota you are on the "stephanie miller show." hi mickey. >> caller: yes. howdy everybody. first off i wish i could come see you guys in chicago. i can't financially afford it but -- >> stephanie: we have some $25 tickets on sale -- >> it's getting there from south dakota -- >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: but at least i get you on di
. >> stephanie: that was senator feinstein. >> yeah. >> stephanie: huh? >> hum. >> stephanie: okay. >> it's just interesting, you know. >> stephanie: i had this debate, i was on governor granholm's last show -- [ applause ] >> stephanie: i can't breathe without her. she might be up for a cabinet post, though. i'll just keep calling her over and oversee if she'll take my call. >> no, she won't. >> stephanie: no but we had a really...
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lethal operation against an innocent person and the senate intelligence committee chair, senator dianne feinstein, says she thinks there will soon be a quote, new day of transparency? >> at one point it was a limited covert program. now everybody knows about it and i think we need to see that this program is really run according to the american constitution and according to law. >> reporter: brennan said yesterday he never believed it is better to kill a terrorist than to detain one for intelligence-gathering purposes. he also offered a new position on enhanced interrogation. in 2007 he said it saved lives but yesterday he said he personally objected to techniques like waterboarding when he was with the cia but never tried to prevent them because they were being used in a different part of the agency. rick? rick: peter, what about the nomination? where does that stand? >> reporter: it is really too soon to tell and the vice-chair of the senate intelligence committee said last night he thinks after all those hours in the hearing room there are still some senators who are not sold as john brennan a
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senator dianne feinstein, democrat from california, had an exchange. let's listen. [video clip] >> i would like to ask you about the status of the administration's effort to institutionalize rules and procedures for the conduct of drones strikes. in particular, how you see your role as cia director in the approval process. >> as of this committee knows, and i am sure once to continue to protect certain covert action activities. but let me talk generally about the counter-terrorism program and the role of the cia and its effort to try to institutionalize and ensure we have as rigorous a process as possible. that we feel we are taking the appropriate action at the appropriate time. the president insisted any action we take will be legally grounded, will be thoroughly anchored in intelligence. will have the appropriate review process, approval process before any action is contemplated, including those actions that might involve the use of lethal force. the different parts of the government involved in the process are part of the interagency and as terrorism -- , the to
senator dianne feinstein, democrat from california, had an exchange. let's listen. [video clip] >> i would like to ask you about the status of the administration's effort to institutionalize rules and procedures for the conduct of drones strikes. in particular, how you see your role as cia director in the approval process. >> as of this committee knows, and i am sure once to continue to protect certain covert action activities. but let me talk generally about the counter-terrorism...
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. >> the chairwoman of the senate intelligence committee, dianne feinstein says she wants to open more of the hearings to the public. >>> today president obama honors leon panetta. the tribute will take place at joint base meyer henderson. in the meantime, panetta made news yesterday when he said for the first time the pentagon backed the idea of giving arms to rebels in syria. it's been reported hillary clinton and former cia director petraeus asked the white house for permission to arm the syrian rebels but were denied. >>> to d.c. politics now, the city's ethics board says it will not pursue evidence i found against council member jim graham. the board says further action cannot be taken because the incident happened before the ethics board was created. however, a federal grand jury is investigating graham and the contracting process. >>> fairfax county police say the serial fondler has struck again. take a good look at this updated sketch. now 18 incidents reported in and around springfield since september. all of which have the same suspect description and the same m.o. the man co
. >> the chairwoman of the senate intelligence committee, dianne feinstein says she wants to open more of the hearings to the public. >>> today president obama honors leon panetta. the tribute will take place at joint base meyer henderson. in the meantime, panetta made news yesterday when he said for the first time the pentagon backed the idea of giving arms to rebels in syria. it's been reported hillary clinton and former cia director petraeus asked the white house for...
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one scene i thought was memorable, when dianne feinstein took after him for not allowing senate staff access to a lot of this information really was a window on how washington works that, you know, people think that senators sort of pore over a lot of these and study them. their staffs brief them and tell them what's going on. the suggestion staff can't have access is debilitating as we saw yesterday. >> it was interesting that brennan said that he, when waterboarding came on, when he was at the cia that he was not in a position to try to stop it, but that he had expressed his reservations about it, his opposition to it and that he would never happen under his watch under director of cia. did that come across as auth authentic? a little bit different from waterboarding. something president obama ostensibly put a stop to said we don't water board. we don't torture. so the belief is i guess, it goes on some of these cia black sites that may or may not exist officially. >> so on the drones, i mean when the flap started at the beginning of the week with the new york time story about this.
one scene i thought was memorable, when dianne feinstein took after him for not allowing senate staff access to a lot of this information really was a window on how washington works that, you know, people think that senators sort of pore over a lot of these and study them. their staffs brief them and tell them what's going on. the suggestion staff can't have access is debilitating as we saw yesterday. >> it was interesting that brennan said that he, when waterboarding came on, when he was...
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from protesters in the crowd who repeatedly interrupted hearing, forcing a frustrated senator dianne feinstein to clear the room. >> please clear the room. please clear the room. >> stand up against torture, stand up against drones, do what we can not to confirm this man. >> they won't even tell congress what country we are killing children? >> if you could please expa did it the removal -- >> are our children more important than the children of pakistan and yemen? do your jobs! >> the capitol police confirm eight people were arrested at the hearing for unlawful conduct. >>> it was a separate hearing on capitol hill that offered new insights into the white house's decision-making concerning the civil war in syria. it happened as outgoing secretary leon panetta and martin dempsey were testifying before the senate armed services committee. they were asked about the administration's decision not to arm the syrian rebels in their effort to overthrow the assad regime. the plan had received support from the pentagon, the cia, secretary clinton. but ultimately it was the white house that turned down
from protesters in the crowd who repeatedly interrupted hearing, forcing a frustrated senator dianne feinstein to clear the room. >> please clear the room. please clear the room. >> stand up against torture, stand up against drones, do what we can not to confirm this man. >> they won't even tell congress what country we are killing children? >> if you could please expa did it the removal -- >> are our children more important than the children of pakistan and yemen?...
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at one point, senator diane feinstein stopped the proceedings and actually had the room cleared. >>> all right. too close for comfort. scientists at nasa say a giant asteroid, about half the size of a football field, is headed our way. they predict it will pass very close to earth on february 15th. no closer than about 17,100 miles. it's one of many large space objects barrelling toward us at the very moment. experts say all of them, inclauinclud including this one, will have very limited, low-impact probability. >> very good. >> fun to watch, probably won't hit. >> i bet a lot of people will weigh in on this next story. should you get paid for all the extra time you spend checking work e-mails when you are outside of work? a chicago police officer has filed a lawsuit against the city asking them to pay up for all the extra hours he says he's frequently required to work when he's off-duty. this is actually happening from home on his department-issued blackberry. that's what he wants to be reimbursed for. here's what the officer's attorney told our chicago affiliate. >> if they have h
at one point, senator diane feinstein stopped the proceedings and actually had the room cleared. >>> all right. too close for comfort. scientists at nasa say a giant asteroid, about half the size of a football field, is headed our way. they predict it will pass very close to earth on february 15th. no closer than about 17,100 miles. it's one of many large space objects barrelling toward us at the very moment. experts say all of them, inclauinclud including this one, will have very...
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. >>> plus, senator feinstein says lawmakers may set up special courts to monitor drone strikes. why apple is sitting on over $137 billion in cash. and an as tried is about to come fascinatingly close to the earth. >>> millions along the northeast corridor are hunkering down for an epic winter storm. folks are stocking up and filling their tanks in anticipation of the massive nor'easter packing blizzard speed winds and crippling feet of snow. analyze are airlines have canceled thousands of flights as this storm travels across the country. dylan dryer is tracking the storm. >> it's going to be a bad storm with blizzard conditions across the northeast. blizzard conditions mean you need visibility under a quarter mile for three hours or more. and winds are going to be very gusty. it certainly looks like that is going to be a possibility. it's coming in pieces. we have your cold piece and your wet piece. this is going to move in from the south. you can see heavier rain is falling across eastern virginia, move into eastern north carolina. that's the moisture we're working with that's
. >>> plus, senator feinstein says lawmakers may set up special courts to monitor drone strikes. why apple is sitting on over $137 billion in cash. and an as tried is about to come fascinatingly close to the earth. >>> millions along the northeast corridor are hunkering down for an epic winter storm. folks are stocking up and filling their tanks in anticipation of the massive nor'easter packing blizzard speed winds and crippling feet of snow. analyze are airlines have canceled...
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. >> after the hearing, intelligence committee chair dianne feinstein called for more openness about drone strikes. the senator says lawmakers may set up a special court to actually regulate those strikes. >> talking about, this is a hot button issue. at the very beginning of that hearing, it was interrupted repeatedly by protesters who came in, and eventually the entire room had to be cleared and only people authorized to be there, because it was supposed to be open to the public, they were asked to leave. it was interrupted to many times, they couldn't even get their points across. >> we've seen that kind of thing before. they took it to another level yesterday, the fact that they had to close things off a little bit here. overall, politically speaking, seems likely he will get confirmation. he's certainly much more likely than chuck hagan. that seems to be a little more of an uphill battle. so far, so good for mr. brennan. but the drone has become the hot issue, because the obama administration has kind of changed positions in the last couple of years about, you know, tactics. >>
. >> after the hearing, intelligence committee chair dianne feinstein called for more openness about drone strikes. the senator says lawmakers may set up a special court to actually regulate those strikes. >> talking about, this is a hot button issue. at the very beginning of that hearing, it was interrupted repeatedly by protesters who came in, and eventually the entire room had to be cleared and only people authorized to be there, because it was supposed to be open to the public,...
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. >>> plus, senator feinstein anyway courts may set up special monitoring sites. and why apple is sitting on cash. and why an asteroid is coming close to earth. "early today" starts right now. >> announcer: this is "early today" for friday, february 8th, 2013. >>> good morning. i'm mara schiavocampo. millions along the northeast corridor are humpingering down for an epic winter storm. folks are stocking up and filling up their tanks in anticipation of the massive nor'easter packing blizzard speed winds and cripples feet of snow. airlines have already canceled thousands of flights as the storm comes across the country. nbc's meteorologist dylan dreyer is tracking the storm. >> the best part about it, it's happening today and into the weekend. a lot of schools already canceled up across massachusetts which is good because you don't want all those kids coming home as the start gets going. we mentioned it's two parts. here's part one back across the great lakes and you can see all of this moisture moving into virginia and north carolina. we have torrential downfalls r
. >>> plus, senator feinstein anyway courts may set up special monitoring sites. and why apple is sitting on cash. and why an asteroid is coming close to earth. "early today" starts right now. >> announcer: this is "early today" for friday, february 8th, 2013. >>> good morning. i'm mara schiavocampo. millions along the northeast corridor are humpingering down for an epic winter storm. folks are stocking up and filling up their tanks in anticipation of...
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senator feinstein today clearly wanted to get on with it, right? regardless of how you feel about the cia or killing people outside war zones or john brennan or the senate or for that matter dianne feinstein you kind of have to tip your hat to the code pink folks just on operational grounds, right? i mean, they can get it done. since they started showing up in washington almost a decade ago, even though everybody knows they're coming now, code pink still gets in everywhere. >> fire rumsfeld! >> this hearing is adjourned. >> thou shall not kill. thou shall not kill. >> clear the room. >> reckless behavior. the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra. >> i'm going to ask that the room be cleared and that the code pink associates not be permitted to come back in. we've done this five times now and five times are enough. >> somebody today christened this the code pink filibuster. and you know, i know, what code pink was doing was not a real filibuster, but they did cause a very real delay, as they always do, and god
senator feinstein today clearly wanted to get on with it, right? regardless of how you feel about the cia or killing people outside war zones or john brennan or the senate or for that matter dianne feinstein you kind of have to tip your hat to the code pink folks just on operational grounds, right? i mean, they can get it done. since they started showing up in washington almost a decade ago, even though everybody knows they're coming now, code pink still gets in everywhere. >> fire...
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in there, perversely congratulating me for my position on gun control, and he congratulates senator feinstein and obama. i say perverse, because he then goes out and commits a set of atrocities with a gun. he sounds completely unhinged, yet the catalyst for all this appeared to be his firing from the lapd. do you have any recollection of what happened with him? do you remember him? >> first off, we don't know hot the catalyst was. the firing was back in 2008, i believe. it's now over five years ago. so what has transpired during those five years, the court several years later upheld the firing. so as to what triggered the actions, the producing of the manifesto, the separate sending of a package to cnn last friday, we don't know. and we won't know until they either apprehend him or other information comes forward. so was it the firing? was it something else that transpired? he appears to have a lot of anger directed to a lot of different people. some who have no relationship at all, as best we can tell, with anything having to do with the discharge. >> the package he sent to anderson cooper,
in there, perversely congratulating me for my position on gun control, and he congratulates senator feinstein and obama. i say perverse, because he then goes out and commits a set of atrocities with a gun. he sounds completely unhinged, yet the catalyst for all this appeared to be his firing from the lapd. do you have any recollection of what happened with him? do you remember him? >> first off, we don't know hot the catalyst was. the firing was back in 2008, i believe. it's now over five...
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senator feinstein did say it's time for full disclosure. >> when i asked to give out the actual numbers, i'm told you can't. i say why not? because it's classified. it's a covert program. for the public it doesn't exist. well, i think that rationale, mr. brennan, is long gone. >> john brennan would not commit to additional disclosures, but he defended the legality of the program. >> the president has insisted that any actions we take will be legally grounded, will be thoroughly anchored in intelligence, will have the appropriate review process, approval process before any action is contemplated, including those actions that might involve the use of lethal force. >> to be fair, it sounds like the bush administration all over. democrats and republicans voiced their concerns, but it was independent senator from maine angus king who questioned the executive power of the president. >> having the executive being the prosecutor, the judge, the jury, and the executioner all in one is very contrary to the traditions and the laws of this country. >> unilateral execution power of the president is
senator feinstein did say it's time for full disclosure. >> when i asked to give out the actual numbers, i'm told you can't. i say why not? because it's classified. it's a covert program. for the public it doesn't exist. well, i think that rationale, mr. brennan, is long gone. >> john brennan would not commit to additional disclosures, but he defended the legality of the program. >> the president has insisted that any actions we take will be legally grounded, will be...
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. >> after the hearing, intelligence committee chair diane fine feinstein called fore openness about drone strikes. >> talking about, this is a hot button issue. at the very beginning of that hearing, it was interrupted repeatedly by protesters who came in and eventually the entire room had to be cleared and only authorized people were allowed in, because it was interrupted so many times. >> we've seen that kind of thing before. they took it to another level yesterday, the fact that they had to close things off a little bit here. politically speaking, it seems likely he will get confirmation. certainly more likely than chuck hagel. so far so good for mr. brennan. but the drone has become the hot issue, because the obama administration has kind of changed positions in the last couple of years about, you know, tactics. >>> well, the dream of luxury living is over for a squatter in south florida. andre barbossa had taken over this foreclosed mansion, claiming an archaic law called adverse possession. but the bank of america, which owns the multimillion dollar property, had him evicted.
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the committee's chair, dianne feinstein, eventually cleared the room. later, brennan cited the protesters when he addressed what he called a misperception about the goal of the drone strikes. let's listen. >> i think there is a misimpression on the part of some american people who believe that we take strikes to punish terrorists for past transgressions. nothing could be further from the truth. we only take such actions as a last resort to save lives when there's no other alternative to taking an action that's going to mitigate that threat. so we need to make sure there is an understanding, and the people that were standing up here today, i think they really have a misunderstanding of what we do as a government and the care that we take and the agony that we go through to make sure that we do not have any collateral injuries or deaths. >> robin, when he described this as a last resort to save lives, one reaction i had is, among the lives we save when we use drones are those of troops who otherwise would be going into harm's way. >> absolutely. i lived i
the committee's chair, dianne feinstein, eventually cleared the room. later, brennan cited the protesters when he addressed what he called a misperception about the goal of the drone strikes. let's listen. >> i think there is a misimpression on the part of some american people who believe that we take strikes to punish terrorists for past transgressions. nothing could be further from the truth. we only take such actions as a last resort to save lives when there's no other alternative to...
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interruptions continued, and the chair of the senate intelligence committee, california democrat dianne feinstein, ordered the roomomomm >> we're going to halt the hearing. >> reporter: once the hearing resumed, brean defended u.s. actions in the war oterrr, but he acknowledged the c.i.a. is not immune from scrutiny. >> i have publicly acknowledged that our fight against al queda and associated forces has sometimes involved the use of lethal force outside the hot battle field of afghanistan. accordingly it is understandable there is great interest in the legal basis as well as the thresholds, criteria, processes, procedures, approvals and review for such actions. i have strongly promoted such public discussion with the congress, and with the american people as i believe our system of government and our commitment to transparency demand nothing less. >> reporter: late wednesday, mr. obama directed that the house and senate intelligence committees be given a classified memo on drone strikes abroad. it lays out the legal rationale for targeting american terrorism suspects. brennan has helped manage
interruptions continued, and the chair of the senate intelligence committee, california democrat dianne feinstein, ordered the roomomomm >> we're going to halt the hearing. >> reporter: once the hearing resumed, brean defended u.s. actions in the war oterrr, but he acknowledged the c.i.a. is not immune from scrutiny. >> i have publicly acknowledged that our fight against al queda and associated forces has sometimes involved the use of lethal force outside the hot battle field...
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secondly, is there a provision i know that my neighbor -- i always like to say dianne feinstein is my neighbor, but i point out it is at work. she works in the offices as opposed to home. she works next to me, and she is working very hard on that piece of the bill, and knows very well what you are talking about representing the state of california. working with senator rubio and others on that bill. i know they are in the middle of negotiations so i do not want to put words in her mouth, but i know that the family concern is a piece. >> it is interesting that the afl-cio have a very proactive, progressive position on this and are out advertising and moving that now. i asked senator mccain. he said, they are in exactly the same place. this is important. it is a larger picture where seemingly fighting pieces, kennedy and others with his early legislation, there is more goodwill to try to move this forward. >> it would be in a bigger bill. i think it is a good thing we have these two bills that are arguably complicated but do separate things. the agriculture workers and the one with sena
secondly, is there a provision i know that my neighbor -- i always like to say dianne feinstein is my neighbor, but i point out it is at work. she works in the offices as opposed to home. she works next to me, and she is working very hard on that piece of the bill, and knows very well what you are talking about representing the state of california. working with senator rubio and others on that bill. i know they are in the middle of negotiations so i do not want to put words in her mouth, but i...